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This throwback episode features a recording made to talk about what we had learned from the COVID pandemic. It is currently about 4 years after dental practices started back to work in a post pandemic world. This is a snapshot of how we were feeling 18 months or so after the pandemic began.

Alan is joined by friends and colleagues Dr. Dawn Kulongowski, Dr. Melissa Zettler and Dr. Frank Clayton to talk about COVID. Specifically how we’re feeling 18 months into the COVID pandemic. What’s different? What’s changed for the worse? Did anything good come from it?

Stuff that’s changed:

  • Costs of everything have gone up
  • Hiring/finding employees is REALLY difficult
  • Delivery everything
  • New business models requiring less people/more efficiency (Dawn’s vet story)
    • No dining rooms for fast food
  • Tolerance of crazy patients
  • Single use/waste
  • Everyone using straws
  • Wiping the pen
  • Asking about vaccination/health information
  • Health screening
  • Staffing changes
  • Hygiene recall is messed up!

What we’d keep:

Al: Exercise

Dawn: Less travel “I’ve put a new dollar amount on my time…”

Melissa: More time with family “We were the house that was willing to have everyone over…”

Frank: Pay attention to your time/free time. Also have patients prepay.

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