The 2023 Spear Summit is happening right this very moment and unfortunately, Al wasn't there this time. Some amazing podcast conten has been created over the years at this meeting. So in celebration of our friends at Spear Education having their summit, we're throwing back to the very first "face to face" podcast interview I ever did with Dr. Frank Spear at the 2019 Spear Summit. IT's a little bit of time travel because this discussion happened before the pandemic, before masking and before Zoom meetings became a way of life. I think you'll find it pretty interesting.

"Jason and Alan had the privilege of sitting down with the one and only Dr. Frank Spear. We had an hour during the Spear Summit to pick up where we left off from  episode 235 and it was very interesting. Frank opened the meeting with a talk that discussed the stories that dentists tell each other about where the profession is going and then presented some data that suggests a lot of these stories aren't exactly true. Some of the things we discussed:

• Why do insurance companies cover things so differently from state to state?
• The beauty of practicing in groups. But not necessarily a DSO.
• Could someone become Frank Spear in the way that Frank did considering student debt as it is now?
• How did beautiful temporaries make a difference in Frank's career?
• Why does Frank feel responsible to help the narrative that dentists tell each other?
• What's the data the Frank would really like to see?
• Why is it so impossible to compare dental businesses and income across the country? How can you compare apples to apples?
• Take home message: things are better than dentists are telling themselves!
• What is dental school like when your dad is Frank Spear?
• How could dental school teach things with more context?
• Are there useful parallels between dental and medical education?
• How will Frank's teaching schedule be changing in the future?
• How is the curriculum at Spear Education changing?
• What kind of "big numbers" has Frank been impressed with lately? (spoiler: it has to do with Spear Practice Solutions)"

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

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Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Kevin and Zach are once again joined by the amazing Dr. Kris Aadland at VoD 2023 to bust some myths and give some tips!

• Kris's myth: You cannot fabricate a chairside indirect restoration of the same or better quality than a lab!
• Kris's tip: Dryshield/Isolite/Optragate

Some links from the show:

• The Pathway (where Kris teaches)

If you want to interact with us, head over to the Very Clinical Facebook Group!

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," McWethy" or "Lipscomb."

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “verydental10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

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Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Alan is joined by digital luminary and 70s kid Dr. August de Oliveira and there was a lot to talk about. From "early oughts" DentalTown to 3D printing to having a baby in your 50s...we covered a lot of ground!

Some links from the show:

• MOD Institute
• Implant Pathway
• August's Instagram

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," McWethy" or "Lipscomb."

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “verydental10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

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Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Buying and selling practices is big business and many (maybe most) dentists don't understand the nuances. Alan talks with attorney Norina D'Agostini helps Alan understand the roles of brokers vs. attorneys in this potentially huge transaction that many dentists make!

• Roles of attorneys vs. brokers (who works for who?)
• How do lawyers think differently than dentists? (spoiler: it's about emotions)
• What kind of practice sales is she seeing? DSOs? Individuals?
• Are DSOs the future?
• Are dentists natural multiple practice owners?
• How has COVID affected dental office sales?
• Is there an employee supply overcorrection coming?
• Read your noncompetes!

Some links from the show:

• D'Agostini Law
• Norina's #: (810) 560-4209
• Kitchen Confidential: Adventures in the Culinary Underbelly by Anthony Bourdain (get the audio version!)

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," or "Lipscomb!"

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

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Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Dr. Brian Baliwas (aka: @sfdentalnerd) sat down at the "Very Clinical" booth to talk with Kevin and Zach about "myths and tips!" 

Brian's myth: We don't chew like we were taught (e.g.-inward-->outward with anterior guidance)

Brian's tip: have the patient chew on 200 micron bite paper and beware the blue dots! Get your restorations out of the way of the patient's chewing.

If you want to interact with us, head over to the Very Clinical Facebook Group!

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," McWethy" or "Lipscomb."

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “verydental10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

--

Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Alan had the pleasure of talking with Mohamed Abo-Basha, who is a first year dental student at the University of Oklahoma. I first met Mohamed at VoD 2022 when he was still "pre dental." Mohamed riffs on the blessing that was his "gap year," how dental podcasts have shaped the way he looks at this career and how he's been able to make dental school "like a job." 

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," McWethy" or "Lipscomb."

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “verydental10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

--

Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Can you imagine a dental office without Caviwipes? What if all of the surfaces in our operatories essentially kept themselves aseptic? Alan was joined by Duane Tinkner and Paul Saueressig at VoD 2023 to talk about the future of infection control by incorporating "long term infection control." We do a deep dive into a completely different way to clean dental operatories that's kind of hard to believe! 

Some links from the show:

• Talking with the Toothcop podcast with Duane Tinker
• MCS Infection Control Solutions

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," or "Lipscomb!"

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

--

Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Zach and Kevin are joined by two of the 3D Dentist's main lecturers, Dr. Tim Anderson and Dr. Erin Elliott! For starters the four of them talk about "that one person" in every lecture.

3D printing is making huge gains. Literally in the last couple of years printing has become mainstream and much closer to "push a button." Dr. Tim Anderson explains and simplifies the "how" of 3D printing.

Some links from the show:

• 3D Dentists
• Practical 3D Printing course

If you want to interact with us, head over to the Very Clinical Facebook Group!

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," McWethy" or "Lipscomb."

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “verydental10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

--

Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

--

CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Al riffs a bit on vacations. They're a chance to take a break from the everyday grind, but the everyday grind is always waiting for you. 

You should still take the vacation.

Also...Al takes a spin in Single Use Time Machine.

Some links from the show:

• The Tuba Exchange
• The Imagination Station in Toldeo, OH
• The Toledo Zoo
• V & E Simonetti Historic Tuba Collection

Sean's new tuba

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," McWethy" or "Lipscomb."

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

--

Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “verydental10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

--

Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

--

CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Occasionally I get to go on OPP. "Other Peoples' Podcasts." Today's episode is one of those times!

I recently joined Dr. Brandon Evert on his show, "Extracting Wisdom." Brandon is a relatively new dentist, but a long time podcaster and his show is terrific. We spent a lot of time talking about restorative dentistry...mostly posterior direct restorative in this episode. I think you'll find it a great listen and I appreciate Brandon having me on!

Some links from the show:

• Bioclear Diamond Wedges
• DeNovo Preformed Matrix bands (you'll do great with sizes 4-6 for premolars and 10-15 for molars
• GC G-ænial Flo X
• Global Surgical Microscope
• CJ Optik Flexion
• Zumax OMS 2380 (through Enova Illumination)

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," or "Lipscomb!"

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

--

Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

--

Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

--

CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Zach and Kevin are joined by two of the 3D Dentist's main lecturers, Dr. Erin Elliott and Dr. Tim Anderson! They start by talking about the CE that didn't ring their bell!

Sleep dentistry has been a topic for awhile and more recently it's morphed into "airway" dentistry. Erin makes an argument that sleep appliances are still a viable treatment option that works in a general dental office setting.

Some links from the show:

• 3D Dentists
• Erin's upcoming course in Dallas, TX

If you want to interact with us, head over to the Very Clinical Facebook Group!

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," McWethy" or "Lipscomb."

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

--

Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “verydental10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

--

The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

--

Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

--

CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Returning guest and dental school bestie Dr. Bart Schultz joins Alan to talk about how they would fix dental school if they were given the chance. 

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," McWethy" or "Lipscomb."

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

--

Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “verydental10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

--

The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

--

Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

--

CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!