For the 2023 holiday season we're giving you the gift of the very best live podcasting concept ever conceived!

At VoD 2022 Kevin and Zach pitched a bunch of clinical scenarios to many many guests at VoD and got fantastic answers throughout the weekend! This made for podcasting gold and we're going to replay them throughout the holiday season! 

Today's episode features Kevin and Zach pitching the scenarios and then they bring on Dr. Abe Hoellrich of Columbus, OH to answer!

Happy Holidays from the whole VDPN team and enjoy!

The questions:

• How did COVID affect your practice?
• You have to have a crown on #2...what material do you choose?
• Did you/would you place sealant on your own children?
• Your significant other needs ortho...wires/brackets or aligners?
• If your own #29 needed endo/core and crown/crown lengthening, would you do it or go right to an implant?
• If your significant other had a slight diastema between 8 and 9 would you suggest ortho, resin or porcelain?

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Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Why does a cranky 52 year old podcasting dentist get to write the "Rules for Influencers?" Because it's my show, that's why.

As a 15+ year content creator (blogging and podcasting, etc.) I've got thoughts about the concept of "influencer." I spell out the rules that influencers seem to follow from my viewpoint.

Do you disagree? Then you should...

...join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!"

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

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Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Alan is joined by the one and only Dr. Kevin Fryer of the Very Clinical podcast! The conversation was fun and wide ranging but we focused hard on EFDAs and Kevin's use of them!

• Schrodinger's Weed
• Black Friday
• Browns/Lions superbowl?
• How Kevin started using EFDAs (he was originally against EFDAs)
• EFDA workflows ("mini associates")
• Kevin's "selling time" concept and how EFDAs make this work.
• EFDA training (Case Western is Kevin's go to)
• Kevin and Al's very first patients in dental school
• University of Minnesota's branding mistakes
• Anesthesia in Kevin's office
• Dental Therapists and Restorative Hygienists

Some links from the show:

• Black Friday by Steely Dan
• State by state rules of allowable dental assistant responsibilities
• Endo Pilot and Procodile Files
• Kevin's Endo course
• The Minnesota Rouser (the worst college fight song)

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!"

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

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Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Kevin and Zach take a seconed bite at the apple while answering even more questions from the socials! The topics include:

• What does Zach think about when polishing composite veneers?
• Kevin's "massage" routine (he prefers the isolation/float tank)
• How do you save $.10 on bonding agent?
• What are the plans for the guys for the ski season?
• When is Zach going to start ortho?
• Is dentistry still a good career path?
• Too much Mahomes?
• How much do you trust bonding vs. traditional resistance and retention?
• What kind of CE are you taking in 2024?
• What would Kevin have named the Cleveland Indians? (Go Caucs!)
• What do you think about the new Beatles song?

Some links from the show:

• Outlive by Peter Attia
• Nathan for You
• "Now and Then" by the Beatles

If you want to interact with us, head over to the Very Clinical Facebook Group!

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb."

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “verydental10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

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Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

It's easy to remember patient interactions that went poorly. Why is it so hard to remember the great one?

There is this thing called "Frequency Illusion" (aka: The Baader-Meinhoff phenomenon) that we humans fall prey to. Why is it that after you buy a car that you see a whole bunch of those cars on the road? Are there really more of them on the road than before you bought it? Or is it your focus and your brain that makes you notice them ALL THE TIME!

This tendency is used by marketing companies to make us think the product we're looking at is more common and desirable than it probably is. And social media pours gasoline on this fire!

What about when you have a poor patient interaction? Your brain can remember every bad patient visit you've ever had and all the sudden you have a hard time remembering the good ones.

Al has a couple feelgood tricks to help break through frequency illusion that will definitely help!

Some links from the show:

• Frequency Illusion Wikipedia

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!"

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

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Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Gen X has seen a lot. We've been around for the introduction of cable tv through the smartphone and social media. Gen X dentists started practicing in the "golden age of cosmetic dentistry" of the 90's and we've seen a lot of change. Some of it for the better and quite a bit of it for the worse.

Al is joined by Dr. Craig Harder to talk about some of these changes. Both Craig and Al were practice owners early in their careers and owned practices at the turn of the century. Their wide ranging discussion covered all kinds of topics:

• Drake the black lab/bird dog
• Yellow page ads
• David Hornbrook's mullet
• "Instant orthodontics"
• Profitable after 3 months!
• Dental benefits and bang for the buck
• "The amount of money you made was directly proportional to the number of hours that you worked." 
• Texting is the new junk mail
• Al's first cell phone (1991 Infiniti Q45)
• "Patients are able to blow off dental appointments with new and impressive technologies!"
• Medical insurance has wrecked patient understanding of money in health care
• An older dentist selling their practice to a younger dentist was very typical...probably the most common way for dentists to become practice owners. DSOs weren't a thing.
• Al's old office building
• Debt as a way of life
• Dental school costs vs. clinical experience
• DSOs and how practice exit strategies have changed
• Longing for the good old days
• TV clicker remotes, VHS, DVDs and minidiscs
• How much impact will Gen X have made in dentistry?

Some links from the show:

• Shared Practices
• The Dentalpreneur Podcast

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!"

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

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Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Kevin and Zach answer questions and concerns from the interwebs! The topics include:

• Taylor Swift's veneers
• Kevin's hair care routine
• What does it take to change one of your favorite materials?
• Would you steal a tray of cookies from a hotel lobby?
• What implant brand are you using, when is the next course?
• Worst stories from dental school
• What podcasts do you listen to?
  • Kevin: 
    • Joe Rogan
    • Dentistry Made Simple
    • Huberman Lab
  • Zach
    • This is Important
    • The Rewatchables

If you want to interact with us, head over to the Very Clinical Facebook Group!

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb."

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “verydental10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

--

Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Mohammed is joined once again by Dr. Kevin Harland. Kevin is a recent grad of the University of Oklahoma School of Dentistry. This conversation focuses on Kevin's first few months in private practice. Every dentist has to handle the transition into dental practice and Kevin gives an interesting peek into what it's been like for him! 

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!"

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

--

Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Alan is joined by Kate Reinert who is a dental assistant who now works with Zirc Dental Products as a clinical efficiency consultant. We had a wide ranging conversation where we talked about implementing new procedures (from the standpoint of the team) as well as helping find and fix "pain points" in clinical systems. Zirc Dental Products is a company that basically helps offices understand how much better things can be in the dental office!

Some topics we covered:

• implementing new procedures
• finding pain points
• the history of "processing dental instruments"
• Central Sterilization as the "heart of the dental office"
• "Instrument creep" and how cassettes can fix it
• Say no to cabinets and lean operatories
• Get Zirc involved DURING the design process
• Getting rid of the "hit by the bus" notebook and reducing training time
• The advantages of resin

Some links from the show:

• Zirc's website
• The Color Method
• Get your free sample of the Crystal HD mirror

Alan is joined by Dr. Jason Smithson as a co-host of the Very Dental Podcast! Jason continues to teach restorative dentistry all over the world and we start our wide ranging conversation contrasting the kinds of students he sees in different parts of the world.

• Is basic restorative dentistry being overlooked in continuing education?
• Patients asking for composite veneers?
• Why not aim at quadrants/sextants of restorative dentistry? Quicker and more predictable than full arch
• The "medium sized case" hits the sweet spot
• Full arch vs. quadrant cash flow
• The patients you would least expect to be picky
• Grey hair = you look like you should know how to do that

Some links from the show:

• Jason teaching ECR at Spear Education
• Jason's upcoming courses

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!"

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

--

The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

--

Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

--

CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Dr. Adam Frounfelter joins the guys again, this time talking about tooth replacement therapy. They dig in to the 3D Dentists course on implant placement from extraction/grafting to final restoration!

Some links from the show:

• 3D Dentists
• 3D Dentists Digital Implant Continuum

If you want to interact with us, head over to the Very Clinical Facebook Group!

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb."

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

--

Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “verydental10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

--

Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

One of the reasons we consistently do things a certain way is due to the lack of friction. Creating systems is all well and good, but when given a choice humans tend to do the easiest thing. And often the easiest thing is the thing that we're used to.

Making changes in the way we do things requires:

• A commitment to change
• Reducing the friction of the new way as much as possible

These two things won’t guarantee success in changing how we do things. But they make a huge difference. 

In today's episode I talk about some of the struggles I've had in doing things the way that I want to do them vs. the way we've always done them. And how I'm reducing friction to make change easier for myself and the whole office.

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!"

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

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Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Dr. Paul Etchison has recently been evaluating what it feels like to be a patient in his office. He takes the patient experience pretty seriously, but since dentistry really sets the bar low (and medicine sets it even lower), he's on a mission to make it amazing! He's got some thoughts:

• Reviews: good, bad and ugly
• Is the bar set low? (yes, yes it is)
• Paul was an advertising major...priming
• TVs on the ceiling
• Touch points and team perspective
• Poo pouri and Paul
• Operatory set ups and consistency
• Complimenting the team during hand offs
• How often is the dentist in their own chair?
• No one is talking about your bond strength!
• Ask your assistant to do an impression of you
• Role paying sucks, but it's really helpful
• Running in to patients out of the office
• The "automatic introduction" trick with your spouse
• Buy Paul's second book and review it
• Dancing at hands on implant courses

Some links from the show:

• Dental Practice Heroes podcast
• Paul's SECOND book: Dental Practice Hero II: the sequel

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!"

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

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Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even  their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!